Unconventional works for me!

Jeannie143

I never quite understood the whole "throw half the starter away and add more stuff to it" idea. I just add water & flour to my starter until I use it all to make my next loaf. I bake at least a loaf a week anyway and I can't believe that the ancient people who used this form of bread making were throwing their starter away. So I mix all of my starter into my flour and water for dough and take some back to keep for the next loaf. Then I add some flax and sesame seeds and a touch of oil to aid in vitamin absorption. I also like to cook up (read "microwave") some old fashioned oatmeal along with some "grape nuts" style barley cereal and a few tablespoons of molasses, cool it and then throw that into the mix for the overnight ferment. Other times I'll cook up some oat groats, bulgar or wheat germ to soften them up for adding to the mix.  I do my final rise in a cast iron dutch oven and bake it at a lower temp than most advise, too. Because of the high fiber content of the loaf I don't get a big holed rise like the pictures but the bread is to die for in flavor.

Whenever we buy a fresh pineapple I use some of the juice in place of the water at my next starter feed. I'm getting wonderful loaves full of flavor that taste like real food and my family who are on a lowered carb diet are more than happy to use one slice of this bread as their fiber filled carb for the day. Just wondering... is anyone else out there breaking all the rules and still getting great bread?

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panfresca 2011 May 25

 ...Levain de Pâte. It's a good way of getting consistency in your dough.

The molasses would really give a boost to the ferment by supplying a lot of extra sugar, and barley is a tried and tested way to add flavor.

You're right, there are a lot of ways to achieve great bread!

Kym.

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nycgirl79 2011 May 25

 I have two starters in my refrigerator: whole rye and whole wheat. I have never discarded my sourdough (actually -when I build my starters I didn't know "the rules"; Thanks God ) . I keep only 1-2 tablespoons of each starter and I bake 2-3 times a week. I love my starters and I respect bread. I would feel guilty wasting them.

 

My blog:http://bochenkowo.blogspot.com/

 

Ladislav 2011 May 27

Hi nycgirl79,

would you please give more details on your starter building and bread dough making routine?  How do you manage to keep only 1-2 tablespoons of a starter and  bake 2-3 times a week? How much do you feed it? Also only 1-2 tablespoons?

I have raised discussion on the subject on the sourdough forum lately...and your "beaking the rules" method could be the solution...

http://sourdough.com/forum/discarding-starter-necessary

 

Thanks

Ladislav

 

Jeannie143 2011 May 27

Thank you for your input.nycgirl79 Your starter looks like mine! And the pictures on your blog are awesome! You can't get the high rise with all the grains in the bread but it certainly looks like REAL food! And because I'm diabetic I find that the sourdough is my friend when it comes to blood glucose spikes. Next I'm going to try a plain white loaf and see what happens with this starter. Wish me luck!

Jeannie143 2011 May 27

Thank you for your input.nycgirl79 Your starter looks like mine! And the pictures on your blog are awesome! You can't get the high rise with all the grains in the bread but it certainly looks like REAL food! And because I'm diabetic I find that the sourdough is my friend when it comes to blood glucose spikes. Next I'm going to try a plain white loaf and see what happens with this starter. Wish me luck!

zarniwhoop 2011 May 29

As a fellow diabetic, and also someone who barely throws away any starter [¹] I'll definitely wish you luck!  For someone producing vast quantities of dough (i.e. a commercial baker), the processes which make sense are not always the same as for those of us who only produce small quantities. To me, it seems stupidly wasteful to discard starter.

 

1. I used to run my wholewheat levain at about 58% hydration.  Now that I'm making it a bit more moist, I find that I waste a little when I divide the refreshed levain, and I sometimes have a teaspoonful left over (tastes lovely).

 

ken

shane peart 2011 June 28

You guys are right.

 

I am not a qualified baker.  I used to make bagels and one day decided to make sourdough.  After a few months of crappy bread and lots of smelly starter I now bake (and sell out) over 500 loaves a week and make six varieties of sourdough.  Sometimes when I feed my starter there is only half a cup left and I dump eight kilos of flour and eight kilos of water on it.  The next day it is ready to go again.  Once you can tell when it is ready to go it is fairly indestructable.

 

Sometimes I have heaps left over so I only feed it a bit.  It will still be OK the next day, just a bit slower.

 

Shane

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